Wednesday, September 21, 2005

Interview with Franklin (Mualaf dari NYC)

Ini adalah wawancara asli saya dengan
Franklin, mualaf asal New York, AS. Waktu itu Mbak Evi Meinar minta
wawancara in english setelah profilnya saya muat di Annida. Sekalian
saja saya posting di MP :). Saya sudah minta izin, dan Franklin seneng
banget. Dia bilang silakan banget disebarkan ke siapa saja
interviewnya. Semoga bermanfaat.

Untuk yang bluwek baca interview in english ini, silakan beli aja Annida no 1/Thn XIV yang terbit 15 September 2005, hehehe.




Data singkat Franklin:

Name:  Franklin "Isa-Ali" Taveras II (Isa-Ali is my
Muslim name)

Place/Date of Birth:  New York, Queens, Sept 6, 1985

Half Dominican and half Puerto Rican

High School: Art and Design located in the New York City, I was
there when the Towers fell (9/11). I currently attend Five Towns
College studing film making.

Drawing, reading working on my comics and script/screen play.


Bismillaah ar-Rahman ar-Rahiim…

This is the interview.

1. When did you convert to Islam?

I did revert to Islam just around the
month of May 2005. There are so many reasons, but the main was that I
believe that those who want to be so close to Allah, whether your
Jewish, Hindu, atheist, Christian; for it is the true Jews that find
Christianity, and its the true Christians that find Islam, and its
the true Muslims that find God.

2. Could you tell us your journey to
Islam? (and what was your reason to change your religion?)

The Qur'an is the main reason i
reverted to Islam. It tells me the real truth, about Allah, about my
human nature, and many others. I was extremely attracted upon reading
it since the beginning. When I was 10, I wanted to become a priest,
that becoming a priest wasn't in my best interest, b/c of not being
able to get married. That was one of the biggiest issues for me. I
thought about it for awhile but when I was really getting into the
priest hood I learned that not having a wife will be very difficult,
so I backed down.

Later when I started College, I started
to get really into studying religion, and I met an old friend (The
history between me and my friend was that while I was studing the
Bible at High School sitting alone at the lunch room, this guy was at
the other end of the corner practicing his which cralf. He was a
Pagan who worshipped Satan. So basically me and this guy where worst
enemies and never talked. If I wasn't so quiet and if he known about
me he would have probably placed a corse on me or something.

Anyway after he almost lost his life
senior year of High School from a drug over dose he found God as he
said, but in reality what he found was Jesus the Messiah. I started
talking to him online when he found my screen name and he chated so
much about religion. We both gained knowledge from each other. It's
interesting how Allah guided me and him to meet since we came from
opposite sides of background. While talking to him and studying he
introduced me to a women called Rebecca Brown. Rebecca Brown was a
leader who in my opinion was starting a cult similar to Elijah
Mohammed, she tought things different from what the bible taught. She
claimed blashemphy firstly that Jesus is the Lord, she met with
demons and Angels alike, and most worstly that her husband is a
prophet of God, don't all prophets have some sort of a miracle?

And after studying her books for a
while I became very attached to her. I saw her as my leader. I
started getting very involved in Christianity, and I saw the errors
of the Catholic Church through her books, and my friend, such as how
the priest is some what closer to God then you, that you have to
repent to him and say "Forgive me father for I have sinned",
how is he closer to God then you, I thought to myself, why can't I
just to talk to God directly not through a priest who can be a great
man, or the opposite.

Anyway I decided that I was going to
become Christian, and get baptisted, again, a month from now, which
was on April 28 2005. Meanwhile at College, I started to make many
films such as "Great Cons: Evolution", "Judgement
Day", and many others. I also started to become an active
preacher, preaching any chance I got at my college, which many of the
students where atheist, and I was trying to inspire them to believe
in Jesus Christ, God's only begotten son. So one day, I had the
oppurtunity to speak at my speech class of an object that means a lot
to me.

Obviously I choose the Bible. Also
readers, keep in mind, I was struggling from a speech ipidiment, but
my faith healed it that day. I thought very possitively, thinking,
"Look at Moses, he had a speech ipidiment, and look at him, he
became a great leader, even a Prophet. I'm not going to let me v- vo-
voice stop me. " So I presumed with the speech, and it came out
very well. After that to many of my peers at college, they saw me as
the "religion man", and I loved it.

It started when i became stronger in
Christianity and became a very young preacher of gospel in my school.
I realized that in my school there were many Atheist, and other
mixtures of religion, whom i must preach to the m the gospel. So i
decided to study different types of religion. After seeing the movie
Malcolm X, from skimming throught the channels, there was a part that
I saw him praying in the film. I started to start my last projectfor
my film class about the life of Jesus, but basically in still life
form. As I started to study other relgions for I can say if any one
asks, what other religions i know I can say and talk about them with
knowledge. A week till my baptism.

After the day I was suppose to get
baptisted I got very upset and depressed, I lost my faith in God, I
tried to forget about him, I decided to take revenge on him which was
a big mistake, and made me even more depressed. My friend Miguel
described comments "When you first started talking about how you
were learning new powers to preach about God, I was astonished
because God doesn't teach in that fashion his spiritual gifts, he
gives and he himself teaches and molds them, not being taught how by

I started to learn that his obession
for power was growing because he felt he can do all these things,
even though it was satanic in nature. I say satanic because I
indulged heavily into satanism and paganism. Like Frank, I had a
craving for power that would bring you down into Satan's kingdom
more. Franklin would become violent for many reasons. No one allowing
him his own time to himself, or for homework, or for someone doing
him wrong in work or outside. Depression is very common for those who
get into witchcraft, even if it is something as small as casting a
little spell or astral projecting. The more he listened to the guy
leading him into sin, the more I decided to keep seeking his
salvation. Never peaceful because you were always angry, no love
because you felt alone in the world, and neglected. Full of pride
because you had some sort of power, and you loved doing it and
describing how good you were. Loads of anger issues, outbursts of
just screaming and cursing because things never went your way.

After attent after attent trying to
pray to Satan, I could not, I know that God had a plan for me, but I
was being ignorant, trying to forget him, but it was impossible. I
realized my ignorance and that my adobe will be hell, So I decided to
look at the other religions and search for God. It was the worst
month of my life. I wanted revenge on God, for making me so confused.
Then I remembered Malcolm X, in the film, praying. So the first thing
I did was go to the moive store and brought the movie Malcolm X.
watching the movie really inspired me to research Islam.

As I got my first Qur'aan in the mail I
started to read it right away, I loved the way Islam was, everything
I believed in since I was younger was all in Islam. For example, that
men should grow their beards, that women should cover there bodies
(because over here in New York most of the women are like advertising
their bodies like zagat for men) and many little other stuff like
that. Also when I read the Quraan, it was so miraculous, everything I
thouht in my head, like dought, etc, God answered it, as if he was
talking to me directly, its only in Islam that the true muslims have
that connection.

But my Christian friend Miguel reminded
me who was Jesus was, and I realized that I was getting way ahead of
myself, I cannot abandon the lord Jesus Christ. So I thought, Islam
made much much more sense then Chrisitanity, but if I convert then I
would be abandoning Jesus. So there was only one way to get an
answer, pray to God. And this was very wierd, during these two weeks
of studying, I was becoming very emotional, I was not doing well on
my film, about Jesus, I started to wonder was it a real crucifiction
or a cruci-fiction, was it true or not.

And on top of that, I lost all of my
Christian friends, you don't know who you true friends are, what the
Christians did to me, got me very angry, just becuase they saw me
with the Quran studying my God, they said they dont want to accosiate
themselves with a devil worshipper. So I let them be, and from them
doing what they done to me, made me even study even harder, I
realized that I had nobody to help only God, so I started to pray to
God "Please show me the correct religion" and after that
prayer, I met a muslim. And he started to teach me of what he knows.

Then I decided again to pray that
prayer again, "God, show me the true religion", I met
another muslim out of no where, asking me, to show me islam. And this
happen 5 times altogether. Then I decided to go to a Mosq for the
first time, to see what the heck islam is really about, I went with a
revert to Islam named Adam Kobzan, I have never seen him before, but
he told me to wait for him near the Mosq. Now fellow muslims out
there, you gotta realize that for a devoute Christian to enter a Mosq
is the scariest thing EVER! As I was outside the Mosq in the city, I
saw so many different types of Muslims, hailing from all over the
world, mostly arab and black, and I thought to myself, that this was
only a religion from the East, and that it wasn't for me.

Then I recieved a call from Adam that
he is looking for me, and the whole time he was right next to me, but
I was expecting some arab guy with a huge beard wearing a dress, but
it was the opposite. A white guy in a tie clean shaved (but now he
got a long beard subhana Allah) so I was very surprised. After
praying at the Mosq Adam introduced me to an Imam, for he can explain
islam to me one on one, as he did. He locked me in a room with two
knowledgable muslim men and himself, and they talked to me, we where
in that room for 3 hours straight debating. But I couldnt win, how
can i argue with common sense. I finally accepted, and was convinced.
They asked me if I want to make the Shahada, I said now, but in my
heart I wanted to. I wanted to first talk to my friend Miguel, and he
warned me that I will be abandoning Jesus if I did so. So one last
time, I prayed to God, to ask him, to show me the truth, and this was
very shocking to me, the Quran on my right hand, my thumb was on it,
I got the urge to read what was under it, and God said to me "If
you doute in this book, find me a book like" and right there and
then, I wanted to become muslim, I couldnt wait.and thank God, I made
my shahada a week later and brought a few other to islam with Allahs
will. Now I must figure out what is the most effective way to spread
islam in America, thats where I'll be.

3. How's your feeling after change your

At the beginning I still questioned
Islam so much. I was a Muslim, I accepted the teachings and what this
Allah said in his book. But I still search for errors, because if I
can find at least one error in the Qur’aan then I can prove it’s
false. But it’s impossible. I as mentioned above, the reason I came
into Islam is because God's clear signs, and one can't ignore them.
Everyone has a choice, to believe in a book that contradicts itself
and makes no sense, or believe in a book that says the rest of the
books where once His book, the same God, and has scientifically
proven facts in it, which has so many miracles in it. Which to

4. Did you face any problems after your
conversion? And how's your parents, family, or society about your

My family doesn't know about my
reversion, but they had noticed that I am more religiously active. As
a great Imam I know named Imam Shamsi Ali told me, "When one
reverts, they must make a good impression to their family," so
if any new reverts are reading this, or any one thinking about coming
into to this true religion of Allah, the best way to let your family
and friends know is to change your ways; become a better person, stop
doing the bad things you done previously, although the main purpose
of this is to praise Allah try to make a good impression, so when
your family and friends find out they will see that you have become a
much better person then before. My parents do not know that I am a
Muslim yet, but inshallah I will show them with this magazine that I
respect so much, Subhana Allah.

Also about my friends, I was becoming a
Christian missionary, trying to spread the word of the Gospel of
Jesus and how he was the begotten son of God (baloney; cough, cough).
But when many of my Christian friends saw that I was reading the
Qur'aan or other Islamic information, they decided to not be my
friends. I lost many friends after conversion to Islam. I lost some
of my main connections for film to start my career off, the main one
from the United Pentecostal Church where I was going to have been
making Christian inspiration films for churches all over many parts
of America and also in India. So I lost my friends, college wasn't
going so good any more (I was doing this Christian film of how Jesus
Christ died on the Cross, and when I was almost done, I was wondering
if we ever even died, like could I have been doing something wrong),
and on top of that Islam was making a lot of sense, which angered me
so much.

5. Do you have any advice for someone
who is studying Islam?

For me personally I was finding that
Islam is a vicious cycle - I wanted to know more, but the more I
knew, the less I felt I had known, which makes me wonder, what else I
don't know, so I want to know more. So in other words, there will be
many people telling you, not to explore this religion, but the Bible
even mentions to use to explore religion, and make sure you are in
the right one. Also think about this to yourself, what is the only
religion that follows all of the commandments of God, or what did
Jesus really say, why did Jesus come (Mathrews 5 verse 17, to make
sure all of the commandments of Moses/God will never be broken) so
think to yourself, what is the only religion that does this. I also
recommend to those exploring for the true religion to read the gospel
of Barnabas, which was removed from the new testament of the Bible.
God’s signs are so clear, I recommend also to look of the miracles
of the Qur’aan, and compared its miracles to the Bible or Torah,
which where both God’s books, but have been corrupted by man. I ask
a favor from those who do not believe. Read the Qur'aan, if God
doesn't truly speak to you through it, or give you clear signs then
Islam is a false religion.

6. What's your opinion about Indonesia?

I learned that in Indonesia is at 88%
Muslim, my question is why isn't Indonesia is at 100% Islam? Surely
some Muslims aren't doing their jobs. I believe every Muslim should
at least take part in spreading Islam. Every Muslims goal should to
at least revert at least one believer into Islam. If this Muslim who
strives to spread the message, and doesn't get one person into Islam
before he dies, Allah will reward this person greatly, for Allah
knows what’s in all of our hearts. I prefer that the committed
Muslims in Indonesia will spread the message of Islam through online,
but please know what you are talking about and do not speak if you
don't know the answer, because blasphemy is a great sin.

7. What's your opinion about terrorist?

To a none-Muslim Islam is about
oppressing women, killing people, and committing suicide for their
God. Al hamdulillah, after becoming a Muslim it is very clear to me
that Islam has nothing absolutely to do with violence and terrorism.
Evils are evils and Muslims are Muslims. You may be Muslims and doing
evilness, but that does not mean your religion is evil. Many
Christians or Jews are doing evilness, but should we say that their
religions are evils? If you think about Adorf Hitler, what religion
was he? For someone to say Islam is a religion of terror, that is not
logical, I tell that person to read the Qur'aan and see what we
believe rather then listen to the media and believe what it says like
most Americans do.

8. Why did you interest on making film?
Do you have plan to make film about Islam like you almost did about
Jesus? Cause I think Islam has so many interesting story, about
Rasulullah (PBUH), his friends, etc.

My future plans are to make Islamic
movies and comics, Islam is growing so much in these non-Islamic
countries, I believe this is a sign from God that the end of times
are coming very soon, this is why so many miracles in the Qur'aan are
being revealed in this era. Allah is trying to save as many people as
he can from hell fire, but it is up to us the Muslims to spread the

My plan is to make Islam known in my
country very well I plan to make films in Allah's will about the true
story of Christ Jesus of how he never died, the youth of the prophet
Mohammed, my comics of how Jesus Christ will come back, and many
others inshallah. If Allah wills he will use me to do this task, for
I trust in him, let Allah guide us all. I'll basically go anywhere
that Allah leads me, I hope he uses me for the greater good. One
thing I learned becing a muslim is that you have to show Allah that
you are dedicated and you are going to put everything into it. Its
what in the heart that counts.

9. Why you choose “Isa-Ali” for
your muslim name?

I haven't yet chosen a muslim name yer,
I'm still thinking. I was thinking of Isa-Ali, but then again, it
wouldn't be right if I call myself Jesus if he will return again, and
I know the days are near,; so i advise nobody to name their children
or change their name to Jesus, just because he will be coming soon
according to the prophecies.I was thinking about choosing a name that
reflects me, that fits me perfectly, inshaAllah ill find it.

10. Please, give your message to
Annida's readers?

To those I have three things to say.

1) I noticed many Muslims that are born
into Islam believe that they have a special advantage over those who
just reverted into Islam, but they are justifying their birth as
Muslims to be careless of the prayers. This is untrue so I tell them
to wake up, or they will face the same punishment as the unbelievers.

2) I also want to give advice to those
want to start giving dua to the unbelievers. All Muslims should carry
at least one Qur'aan with them, to be prepared to give away to
someone who is interested.

3) Read the Qur'aan at least once a
day, whether its a verse, or a whole Surah, if you seek the knowledge
of Allah, then he will provide, God loves those who fight for his
true religion. What has there not been that Allah has not done for
you, for he is perfect, all you have to do is ask, and read his
Qur'aan and he will provide. Reading the Qur’aan is like going to a
private class to learn, and Allah is your personal teacher, the more
you learn from him, and if he sees your determined HE will surely
give you extra credit.


  1. makasih yah mbak udah mau ngemuat versi bhs inggrisnya.

  2. Sama-sama, Mbak Pepy. Semoga bermanfaat :)

  3. mashaAllah mashaAllah... welcome to the rigth path, welcome to the brotherhood of Islam, brother Isa Ali...

  4. Thank you for sharing your reversion story to us, brother...

    -Sis Dina-
    PS: terima kasih banyak juga, mbak Dee

  5. Subhanallah.... ganteng pulak.... mau dong....hehehe....

  6. dee, interview yg menarik, aku minta ijin tuk taruh diwebsiteku ya ...

  7. sisterd: Sama2, Dina :)

    ceritaaya: mau? franklin lagi nyari istri lho ;), tapi jangan2 udah dapet, soale udha lama gak kontak dia :D

    kangirwan: silakan, diijinkan dgn senang hati :)

  8. HAI PARA MUALAF.....KEMBALILAHHH...PELAJARI LAGI DENGAN benar siapa itu isa....Dia adalah hakim di akhir jaman nanti

  9. Hai, Mas... kulonuwun dulu gitu kalo namu di rumah orang ... Jangan langsung teriak-teriak... :)

  10. Why not try to attend fellowhips in a BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN church so that you will be rescued from your desperation..Remember what JOhn 14:6 says...and ACTS:12.. There's no such PERFECT RELIGION on earth because we are not made to be here. WE are meant for GOD Alone in heaven. Relationship with JESUS is the ONLY KeY to everlasting love, peace joy...happiness, etchh.

  11. Sayang sekali, seandainya dia maen ke blog gw dulu.......

  12. Pengalaman imannya "nggak valid". Hanya berdasarkan kemarahan dan nemu islam ??? Anger never lead to the TRUTH...


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